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in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179419
@Boomer: Nothing nauseates me more than your bathroom humor so isn’t that calling the kettle black???
Aside from that I will not candy coat anything I said – you have a very poor conception of what I was saying, but I’ll just chalk that up to your drug usage and ignorance. You are acting like a child. I was merely trying to control your reactive mind but I can see you work with that 98 percent of the time. Try the other part of your brain that analyses things. You might not be so angry.
@Sue, I have a feeling you are abit off with your statements as well. Running to the doctor for every little thing and using this board as a crutch.
@Boomer, forgot to metion, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT AND GO AND REPORT ME. You will see when you side with the Gremlin we have here, you’ll get in trouble yourself.I try to help and respect everyone but if someone is close minded there is nothing I can do. FYI, I am a Christian. I believe in the holy trinity. I believe in God, I believe Jesus walked this earth and died for our sins. Scientology is merely a description of the mind and how it works. Now I see how mental you really are. Personal attack? YOU BET. I knew you were hateful the moment you came aboard. Good luck to you with your doctors. I am sure you are a handful.
xoxxoxoxox
Karen:DAND NO ONE HAS TO BAN ME, I QUIT
**As far as your sarcasm is concerned about being”clear”I don’t think you understand what a person goes through to be clear so cut the wise cracks. They are NOT APPRECIATED.
FYI, a clear is someone who has been audited and if you think you are so smart, what exactly does that mean? It means an auditor (in your little limited language “shrink”) talks to a person for at least 4 hours to rid them of engrams. YOU ARE AN ENGRAM. Engram=bad thought/. I knew you would be trouble the moment you signed up for this forum. THANK YOU FOR RUINING IT.
You have a lack of respect for people, that is evident. You think you are the only one that is sick here? Earth to Boomer or whatever your real name is. Coward. You are not the only one. There are many sick people here with a horrible disease and trying to get support and advice, not wanting to hear about your toilet problems. YOU ARE NOT FUNNY. YOU ARE AN OBNOXIOUS PERSON, VILE AND HATEFUL. ENJOY YOUR SELF DESTRUCTION AND IGNORANCE, IT BECOMES YOU.
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179413@Kimberly- please forgive me for mentioning what has worked for me in the past. I have no intention, nor agenda to convert anyone to the Church of Scientology. It is a matter of choice. We are not like Johovah’s Witness. We do not go door to door, nor do we pass out literature without being a member of the IAS, (Internatoinal Associates of Scientologists) however, I have to respectfully disagree that if anyone wants to read the newly revised addition by Religious Technology Leader, David MisCaviage, they should be able to as this is their own decision or perogrative.
Just because Scientology has helped me and I am forever indebted to the Church does not mean it would help anyone else. Anyone taking mind altering drugs can have them if they work for them. Personally I had horrible experiences with them and contacted the church as to what to do! Ms. Frick helped me make the decision and using the E-meter for anxiety definitely is something that I have a strong conviction about for anyone who seems to suffer from anxiety be it from abnormal Graves’ levels or menopause. The emeter is usually available for anyone outside demonstrations are done even at local k-mart stores. And all is welcome at the church to try it. No charge, no obligation.
I am sick and tired of the Church of Scientology getting a bad rap. And I will stand up for them and their causes no matter what it takes or at any price. If people choose not to associate, that is just fine with me. I care about humanity and making a better world. One without drugs, be it street or prescription unless they are needed.
Scientology does a lot of good things. We have Volunteer Ministers that go to places to help with disasters like hurricanes. You will see the people there with yellow t-shirts and helping their fellow man.
We started NARCONON. And Former President George W. Brush gave $4,000.000 to help us.
When Michael Jackson was ill, he studied Scientology. I wish he had gone to the church earlier, he might be alive today.
It has saved many from the abuse of drugs in general and anti-depressants. I find people turning a blind side to Scientology. And there is nothing wrong with it, nothing that can’t help a person to realize what type of person they are, regardless of what is their ailment. It does not matter if they have Graves’ Disease or Cancer, Dianetics has helped their way of thinking. I struggle every day with my brain tumor, and other problems, only to allow L. Ron Hubbard’s philosophy sink in and it has done some good.
But again, it is not my intention to convert anyone ON THIS BOARD TO SCIENTOLOGY. I was merely making a statement.
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179409No one can get into your head. That’s the problem. It is a pseudo-science. It is all based on opinions.
If you’ve ever seen the two little blobs floating around on the commercial for Zoloft, it says “it’s been thought that there is an imbalance of…..”
“It’s been thought.” There is the key. It is therefore a theory. No one can measure your brain chemistry through blood work to see if you have an imbalance and if you are depressed.
Depression has many causes. Personally I can say I am depressed because of a number of things that have happened to me in my life. Illness, the loss of a loved one, problems with money, marriage, etc.
For someone who has an imbalance, it goes much deeper than that. What is the root of depression? A little blue pill is not going to cure my Graves’ disease, my brain tumor, the way my husband talks to me. It may make a living dumbbell out of me, but that’s all it’s going to do. Those pills are a band aid for the things that bother us. Just zoning out will make things easier but it’s really a mask we hide behind.
And the drug companies? they just get richer as they charge high prices for these so called “depression” pills. I do not believe in them, sorry. I had bad experiences with them, my family has and now that I’ve turned to the Church of Scientology, I can see why they are on the bandwagon to get people off of them. There are many sites on the net of people screaming about addiction to these pills, gaining weight, feeling worthless and suicidal.
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179406@geri, couldn’t agree with you more. I think you are handling things very well. When I get really, really frazzled, I know I have Father McKenna to listen to me. Aside from that, I have my books, “Dianetics,” “Self-Analyis.” and “Introduction to Scientology.”
If you want to read some great things about the psychiatry, please read “Dianetics.” It gives the history of it in one chapter and how the old methods of electro-shock therapy came about. That is now a thing of the past so we rely on Zoloft, Paxil, Lexapro, Cymbalta, Celexa, and when those don’t work, the pharmaceutical companies add a booster shot like “Abilify.”
This is an added shot in the arm for the pharmaceutical company to make more money! And I know a pharmacist that has filled many prescriptions of Abilify and said his quote “it’s nasty stuff.”
@Raspberry, you definitely have a valid point and I agree with you. The car mechanic comparison is great! However, how do you find a good counselor? Do you interview them first? I think that might be a good idea. And as far as the pills? Personally I’ve yet to find one that works for me. Especially Effexor. that did the most damage to me.in reply to: surgery to remove mass and maybe thyroid #1179450GOOD LUCK TO YOU, TALLEY Have a blast in Italy
Caio,
Karen
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179403@Kimberly, Yes, that’s exactly it! I had the misfortune of finding a real winner and it was just by a small booklet sent to me by United Health Care. I had never heard of her and just took a shot at it. She was strange. She had conducted her counseling in her “plant” room. Talk about HOT! I was sitting among spider plants and all sort of tropical stuff.
She had signs posted all over the place about not getting her rugs dirty and you had to wear paper slippers. LOL!
You had to leave going through her laundry room. I found that unpleasant. It was a bad day for me I’ll never forget because it was my birthday! I had one other session prior to that and I really liked her. I thought she was eccentric but nice. The second session was like “Jekyll and Hyde.” Complete turn around. I even did my homework that she gave me.
She was insulting. And she said other things that were just out of control that I took offense to as well. And I had to pay her a co-payment,the insurance picked up the rest.
I reported her behavior to the insurance company. They contacted her and I got a letter of apology from her. She asked me to come back and see her again. At that point, I thought the damage had been done and declined another session with her. I didn’t think she understood me and this was before I was diagnosed with Graves’ and even if she knew I had Graves’ I don’t think it would have made a difference to her.
My cousin certainly would not recommend her doctor because he put her in such a state, all she did was cry. Talk about depression. She sank very, very low. It took a long time for her to pull herself back together again. And she had issues with just feeling rejected by this 12 year old child.
I also have another cousin. He is in Attica State Prison. He got 10-25 years. He has a psychiatrist that he meets with several times a week. Unfortunately, it is not helping him with his progress of being a model prisoner. He has more time added because he has gotten into fights, made homemade knives, attacked other prisoners and refuses to take his computer course. So it leaves a sour taste wondering what exactly this doctor is doing for him? Or is he a hopeless case?
A neighbor of mine has an 18 year old that tried to commit suicide on Lexapro. He was depressed because his girlfriend broke up with him.
A friend of mine with a 12 year old daughter feels rejected at school. she is now taking Zoloft. Her mother is worried about her. She seems very withdrawn.
All of this makes me feel very negative about counseling. I do like talking with my Priest. He doesn’t cost anything and he doesn’t prescribe drugs. LOL!
**If anyone is interested, Tom Cruise has a youtube video with Matt Lauer that was done when he goes off about depression pills and the use of them for post partum depression and mentions Brooke Shields. I think he really sheds some light on the subject.
Sorry for the soap box. But I really have a strong conviction about those pills and I certainly am no doctor but I’d hate to hear someone got very ill or killed themselves because of them. On the same token, I realize they do work for some people and I think that’s wonderful. Mike Wallace used them for years. he claimed they saved his life. So I guess it’s different strokes for different folks.
Karen
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179401It is my strong background in Scientology that keeps me away from those people and for good reason.
I did see one 2 years ago by the advice of my husband. She called me “stupid” and I lost it. Stupid? Why? She explained because my choice of vehicles was not practical. At that point, I was earning a lot of money so I purchased a beautiful red Porsche. She claimed I was “stupid” because I didn’t drive it in the winter. I told her I wanted the car and driving in the winter would destroy the oil pan had I bottomed out on the snowy streets.
She then told me I had gynecologist issues with hormones and to go “away.” She ordered me to leave her home. (yes, she conducted her business out of her home) and made me stand in the laundry room next to a pile of dirty, smelly laundry until I could get a ride home.
I found her to be nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake. So that’s my take on it.
My cousin who married a man that had a child, went to see a shrink because the child hated her. When she left the sessions, she was a basket case. She cried for days claiming the shrink made her feel worse about her self when all she wanted to do was love this child.
My Scientology background saved me from SSRIS and the poison these so-called doctors dish out. I was sweating, vomiting and hallucinating on 4 different brands and it wasn’t for depression. It was for perimenopausal hot flashes.
I owed a lot to the Church at the point to get me off those drugs as they are addictive.
My aunt had surgery to replace one of her knees. They gave her Cymbalta and she tried to jump out the window of her 3 story home. Suicide is always listed with anti-depressant mild-altering drugs.
I am not here to change the world, but feel I had to speak out about these types of doctors, abusive drugs and the licenses that have been yanked by abusive psychiatry. In 2011, The Church of Scientology yanked nearly 300 medical licenses away from abusive psychiatry and their doctors.
This year, we strive for more. Scientology has saved me from getting sicker than I already am.
But if it works for you, I say go for it. Personally, it did me more harm than good.
Karen
in reply to: Do I need a Psychiatrist too? #1179398I am sure I am in the minority, but in my opinion, you do not need one.
You are not mentally ill, nor disturbed. Who is to define what is and who is mentally Ill?
We have Graves’ Disease and there, Graves’ Rage. I used to think it was my hot Italian temper, my mother used to say and still does “you were such a sweet little girl.” This is ignorance on her part. She doesn’t understand Graves’ and never will, I don’t try to make her. She’s 87 years old.
Sometimes we need to chill. I have a friend that is a priest. He’s good to talk to and not judgemental. You might just need a “friend.” But as far as giving someone $200 an hour to lie on their couch? Personally I don’t believe in it. This is just my opinion and I hope everyone can agree to disagree.
Karen
in reply to: My Heat Intolerance Melt down #1179340@Kimberly, it was a referral actually sent to me by United Health Care. The idiot endocrinologist had nothing to do with it. He’s just good at scratching his head.
@Boomer, I think the bathroom humor, on my part, might be just alittle bit too much information! LOL!Sometimes I just feel like being alone. If I am not around for awhile, just consider me lurking. You guys are all great. But sometimes I just need to be by myself for awhile.
Love you all
Karenin reply to: My Heat Intolerance Melt down #1179337@Kimberly, yes, the new gynecologist seems very concerned and she explained to me in the recovery room, that we had to “work on” my quality of life because she said it isn’t very good. I am confident I explained it to her and what I go through each day..
All depends on pathology for now. We have to “plan” as she put it and then see if we can keep me from boiling to death in the summer weather. I told her I only like fall and winter and she said “you have to learn to enjoy the summer.” So she seems interested in working with me to see if and when she can help. I never get my hopes up, because many doctors have just thrown up their hands and told me they couldn’t help me. she probably will have the same response.
As far as who I can talk to? I had a couselor a few years ago and she and I didn’t mix very well. She told me I had to see a gynecologist so they just throw the ball back and forth like smooth tennis.
Nope, I’m all alone. Geez, for a girl who just might have cancer, my husband is being pretty nasty today. What’s that song by Joni Mitchell? “don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you got til it’s gone?” He just might find out.
Karen
in reply to: A Cyclist’s Two Days until TT #1179309I haven’t had my thyroid removed (as yet) but my father did. He had thyroid cancer.
Having just had surgery last Friday myself, I was a nervous wreck and they gave me Klonopin with a sip of water just to get me to the hospital. I had to walk into the operating room. I kept asking myself “is this a dream?” I wish I wasn’t there but before you know it, you are out. Next thing you know, you wake up in recovery. It’s done.
Doctor came in to talk to me. This is exactly what will happen and we are all here supporting you. Try not to be afraid. Before you know it, it’s over!
Good luck!
Karenin reply to: My Heat Intolerance Melt down #1179335LOL!!!!!!!!@Boomer, I knew I could count on you.
Don’t worry about me sticking to the iceberg. I’m so hot, I’ll melt it.
Your picture is funny! You have eyes like Russel Brand and he’s funny too!
Karen
in reply to: My Heat Intolerance Melt down #1179333Hi Raspberry, I am not on any female hormones at all right now. They had to take me off because of my surgery last week and I went “cold turkey.” It’s the wrong thing to do but with the cancer scare and the biopsy of the uterus, they didn’t want me on any HRT.
If the biopsy comes back okay, (still waiting) she said we would talk about some sort of replacement therapy for me.
The whole idea about HRT is pretty misleading which I believe led me to the operating room in the first place. There was not enough progesterone in the meds to keep the lining of the endometrium from growing. So I have had 2 surgeries now in the past 2 years because of it. The estrogen builds it up, the progesterone breaks it down. I didn’t have enough progesterone in my transdermal patch to do the job. When the endometrium grows, it’s a sign of cancer if the woman is having abnormal bleeding which I had. So I am abit leery about trying anything more HRT if the biopsy comes back benign.
in reply to: Become Obsessively Familiar With Your Meds #1179323Sue, thanks for posting this. I examine everything once I get home from the pharmacy. You have to!
I had gotten a generic Naproxen 550mg for my migraines. It had the most horrible taste. I am sure it caused irritation to my stomach. The Pills were white and not blue like usual.
Pharmacists can be pretty mean and nasty over the phone. He said more or less I was wrong. He deals with the same pharmaceutical company all the time for generics and that these were the same pills. NOT! I was so sick, I could barely walk. The heartburn, the pain and the burping.
So we talked to his co-worker, who exchanged the pills for the blue ones that I have been taking all along and no more problems.
Also, if they have to order any transdermal meds, you have to be careful where to store them. They didn’t tell me and the patches would not stick to my skin. A nice pharmacist said to put them in the refrigerator and then take them out for 2 hours, then stick on. It works.
in reply to: So what was your Graves story…. #1179272Diagnosed October 2012/ Before that they thought I had Hashimotos. I was hypo sometimes but hyper a lot which would leave me bedridden. Sometimes for 3 months at a time. The endo I went to, said my thyroid was dying and damaged and would soon go hypo permanently. I would live on Synthroid and live happily ever after. NOT
This went on for 15 years. I went to different local endos who told me I was anorexic or was mentally ill. Fact was: I was hot, heart racing, losing hair, palpitations, depressed and just in a complete sweaty fog. I was tried to kill myself because no one understood what was wrong with me so I figured it must be cancer.
I went to gynecologists for hot flashes and nothing worked and still has not to this day. I had many tests. The TSH was either 7.0 or 0.01. Up and down all the time several times a year. Worst symptom was burning hot and heart racing. I lost my job as an insurance broker. Ended up in ER 2x. No one would believe me when I said I thought I had Graves’ disease.
Finally I went to Cleveland Clinic. It took 2 doctors and a series of blood work to tell me I carried 800 TSI, had a dropping hyper TSH and was indicative of Graves’ disase. Gave me options of eithe r RAI or TT.
Since then, I started Tapazole immediately and am now in remission. However, do not feel well. I have heat intolerance severely. Right now, they feel it’s menopausal.
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