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    All I really know is that changes in your activity level can trigger a change for your needs when it comes to replacement thyroid hormone. I would suppose that means you need more when your typical daily activity level rises significantly, but leave that to the blood tests to figure out. Just knowing that it’s possible will make you a better advocate for yourself ~ we should be getting our thyroid levels tested at least annually, even after treatment and successful stabilization, for just that reason. Other things can affect our thyroid hormone needs as well ~ weight and age, for instance ~ so it’s always a good idea to have a handle on where you stand, no matter what.

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    in reply to: My intro…… #1071698

    Welcome Marie!
    We’re so glad you found us. Please feel free to ask any question, we’re here to help! <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />

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    Euthyroid by lab tests, and having found the patient’s perfect thyroid hormone levels, are two very different things. If levels aren’t managed carefully and the correct point pursued, the patient can be subclinically hypo even while on replacement, which could easily lead to other problems. It can also happen that a person is subclinically hyper on replacement, which can bring on lesser versions of all the symptoms we know so well, and that can also result in harm. That’s why it’s absolutely essential to put the time in to find the RIGHT level, not just be glad it’s somewhere within the normal range.

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    GD can definitely come and go in the years before it comes on strong enough for us to notice and be diagnosed. I had similar episodes for probably 10 years or more before it was constant. I don’t think it means we were hyperthyroid the whole time ~ I think we may have gone hyper and then gone back to normal without realizing it ~ but of course there aren’t statistics on it because it’s in the period of time before we see anyone about it.

    As far as paranoia, we know there’s a mental component to the imbalance, and I think that plays out differently in many people, so YEP it might originate with that imbalance (or they really are out to get you! <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” /> giggle ~ couldn’t resist.)

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    Just a quick comment ~ following removal of the thyroid (through surgery or RAI), we take replacement thyroid hormone. Managed correctly, we will not be hypothyroid. ATDs can also cause hypothyroidism if you’re taking too much, so the issue is the same ~ vigilance and management of our thyroid hormone levels is critical with any treatment.

    Statistically, Graves’ patients experience thyroid failure sooner in life than those who do not have Graves’ Disease, so in all likelihood, a fairly high percentage of Graves’ patients will find themselves hypothyroid at some point. Luckily, we have replacement hormone to deal with it so we do not remain hypothyroid, which is a condition just as dangerous as hyperthyroidism, if left untreated.

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    First, your TSH level is likely to lag behind the T4 test results ~ TSH reads an average of the thyroid hormone levels in our bloodstream over time (weeks) and reacts accordingly, so when the levels are changing rapidly, the TSH will take a while to "catch up." At this point, your T4 is a better level to be looking at, while checking TSH to give some perspective. Later on, when your levels are far more stable, TSH is the best level to use for guidance.

    It’s possible that you are gaining back some of the muscle mass you lost while you were hyperthyroid. That’s good weight gain, but it won’t function as it used to until you strengthen it and give it the calorie-burning capabilities it had before hyperthyroidism took it away (strong muscle mass burns calories, even at rest). That’s one possibility for the weight gain. Another possibility is that you have not yet replaced that muscle mass, and so you do not have the benefit of its calorie-burning capabilities, and so eating the same way you used to can result in weight gain, because your muscle used to burn some of those calories away. These are pretty much the same underlying reason for the weight gain, I know.

    Doctors like to say that we became gluttons while hyperthyroid, since we could eat virtually anything and not gain weight, then when our levels drop, our gluttony catches up with us. I get just a little perturbed :x when I hear that this is what patients have been told, because I really don’t buy it. Perhaps this happens if a patient has been hyper for years and years, but I don’t believe it occurs when GD has come on fairly rapidly and been diagnosed quickly.

    You’re so early on in the process that it’s hard to say right now, but I will venture a guess that once you have completely controlled thyroid hormone levels, you’ll find it easier to resolve. In the meantime, just try to eliminate any empty calories in your diet. Take good care of yourself. <img decoding=” title=”Wink” />

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    Immunosuppression with ATDs is actually pretty rare ~ plus, when you know what to look for, you can spot it, diagnose it and end it rather quickly if you’re in that small percentage who experience it.

    I’m one to support gut feelings, as long as they don’t seem to lead you into harm’s way. If you can, speak with your doctor about being tested more frequently at first, since you have a special issue at work.

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    in reply to: What’s next #1071799

    Hi again Kimmer,

    I just wanted to mention that there is a possibility of feeling "super hyper" a couple of weeks after RAI ~ it’s due to the fact that thyroid cells not only manufacture thyroid hormone, they also store it, and when those cells die, all that thyroid hormone gets "dumped" into the bloodstream at once. It can make for a couple of weird days, right around the two week mark, after which it should subside rapidly (IF it happens to you ~ it wasn’t noticeable for me). I would talk with your doctor before heading out on your first bike ride, because you’re right at that period after RAI, and it could be dangerous to get your heart rate up just now.

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    We’re happy to help, Aravindh! Talk with your doctor specifically about the Inderal ~ I know you mentioned that you had high blood pressure issues, and so that may be the reason you’re taking it even while euthyroid, but it’s possible that you can either wean off it or take less, considering the dizziness you’re experiencing. I’m sure getting started with the exercise your doctor allows is a good idea ~ even at low levels, it provides a benefit to you and begins to get your muscle mass back in shape.

    Thanks for the update! <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />

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    This would be a good message to send to Peter privately as well, Kimberly.

    You’ve got it right ~ the 20-30% successful results with ATDs are achieving full remission, meaning a period of time with normal thyroid hormone levels and NO medication (after taking the ATDs for 18-24 months). MOST patients have success in reaching normal thyroid hormone levels with the ATDs, as far as I know. I’m not sure if there are statistics on the percentage of patients who find no relief from ATDs. Remission is not a "cure," though, it is temporary by its very definition, and it does not directly address the underlying autoimmune issues, though some patients have seen a drop in autoantibodies following treatment. I’m not sure that has been directly connected to the ATDs themselves. The antibodies can wax and wane throughout our lives for all of us, and I don’t believe that any direct connection has been made to the cause.

    The high success rates with thyroidectomy/RAI have to do with resolving the hyperthyroidism, that’s all. Of course, without a thyroid, you can’t say the patient is in remission. These do not directly address the underlying autoimmune issues either.

    None of the three treatments for our thyroid have anything to do with addressing TED antibodies. That’s an entirely separate discussion.

    Hopefully the newbies to the site don’t stop researching their condition at that page ~ if they continue on to this board, they will find the details that help them translate. I do see what you’re saying, and lots of people do get confused, even at the doctor’s office, over that information. If the treatments were more similar to each other, perhaps we could compare apples to apples. I’m not sure there’s a simple way to address that in an overview.

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    That’s Jake’s new picture all right, but I can’t say for sure it’s a fish on his head. <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” /> I was thinking some kind of feathers, considering his Native American heritage….

    Jake ~ enlighten us!? GREAT picture. <img decoding=” title=”Wink” />

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    Hi Christa,

    Just one comment to add to Jake’s response ~ just because the medication has helped to lower your thyroid hormone levels in the past few months, that does not indicate your problem is "fixed" by any means. Graves’ Disease is far more complicated than that. It’s a good time for you to do some research on GD and all the possible treatments, now that your levels have dropped and you feel well enough to focus on the information.

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    Short answer is YES, we’ve all been through those things ~ it’s the toughest thing we deal with. How to make it easier? Well, my "pat" answer is to say, do those things that sustain you, that feed your soul, that make you feel fulfilled, satisfied, happy. Do NOT do those things that drain you, that steal your energy and give you nothing back.

    You are early on in the process, believe it or not, but you’ve begun your treatment, so you’re getting closer to healthy all the time. Keep in mind that once your levels are normal, that’s your body’s signal to BEGIN the healing. You think you’ve been healing all this time, but you have not. Your body is in an emergency state right now ~ thyroid imbalance, or even rapid change in thyroid hormone levels, is interpreted by the body as a 911 emergency, because it would not normally happen. Besides the attack of hyperthyroidism and ITS effects on your body, your body is also reserving resources right now to make sure you live through this emergency. Your hair, nails and skin can suffer, because those things lose resources quickly in an emergency. Other body systems that keep you alive need the resources more.

    Once your thyroid hormone levels reach the normal range and remain stable for some period of time (weeks, probably), then your body will remove the "emergency status," return resources to every part of your body, and at that point you will START to heal. So you will need to be careful with the things you decide to spend energy on for a while.

    Set your own priorities, let some things go ~ the emotional side of this is extremely difficult, I know, so try explaining (in a CALM moment) that you find yourself carried away at times, that you feel just as helpless as those around you. Try developing a "safe word" the family can use to try and defuse those emotional moments. Let everyone know that this is a long road, and you need everyone to pitch in and help during this time, even if its just to let you know that they understand you’re having a hard time, and they’ll warm up leftovers tonight. <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />

    You’ll get there. Promise. <img decoding=” title=”Wink” />

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    Once your thyroid is completely gone, iodine shouldn’t have any effect on you, but check with your doctor to be sure.

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    Sounds backward to me too ~ if you’ve been on PTU, it may be the PTU that’s causing you to go hypo, but those values (high TSH, low T4 and T3) are the textbook definition of hypothyroid. Have a VERY frank discussion with your doctor to confirm everything. Typically we do not need a second RAI, and this would be a little early to determine that, even if it were necessary.

    Some people do take PTU while the RAI is taking effect, just to keep levels correct, but it shouldn’t be necessary much longer.

    My doctor had a, well, let’s be polite, a misunderstanding of my levels once, and almost prescribed me MORE thyroid hormone when my TSH was reading low. I politely inquired about my understanding of the test results, at which point I heard "oh, you’re right, you’re right, you need to take less instead." We are definitely our best advocates in health care. Good spottin’, Tex. <img decoding=” title=”Wink” />

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