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  • Kimberly
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    in reply to: Newly Diagnosed! #1069545
    ShellieB wrote:What do most people do? Is one more successful than the other?

    After you have treatment, do you start to have energy again? I am assuming that stress will play a part in how I feel as I have read that Graves is a stress related disease?

    Sorry for all of the questions!

    Welcome! I guess it depends on your definition of "success". I am currently taking Anti-Thyroid Drugs and hoping to go into remission. To me, having a functioning thyroid and not being on any meds would be "success" — although there are potentially some rare side effects with ATDs, including liver damage and a reduced white blood cell count. The good news is that with regular labs, you can catch these issues early, and stopping or reducing the meds will usually take care of the problem.

    My stamina is not where it was before…but I have made major improvements. I would like to start playing competitive tennis again, but right now, I’m only good for about an hour on the court. Of course, when I started this whole process, just walking around the block was exhausting, so I guess I can’t complain!

    As for stress, I have personally found that there is a direct link between stress and my level of hyperthyroidism. I have been doing weekly Reiki sessions, practicing meditation at night, and working *really* hard to "not sweat the small stuff". Any activities that you can do to stay in a positive mental state will help your recovery.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly

    Kimberly
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    Unfortunately, our doctors don’t seem to give us much guidance when it comes to optimizing our diet. You will want to be careful with your iodine intake (seaweed, fish, dairy) while you are hyperthyroid. Our bodies convert iodine into thyroid hormone…which is the last thing you need while hyper…it’s like throwing gasoline on a fire!

    Personally, I feel best when I eat a variety of whole foods (fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats, limited dairy). I try to minimize processed foods with ingredients that I can’t pronounce, as I figure my body doesn’t need any more aggravation. <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />

    Also, I count Weight Watchers POINTS every day, as it’s definitely been a struggle to keep my weight in check throughout this process.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly

    Kimberly
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    Hi Elise – Someone else here can probably better address the *clinical* definition of hypothyroidism…I’m not sure if your TSH has to be out of range on the high end to make the diagnosis "official" — or if it goes by your Free T3 and Free T4 being out of range on the low end.

    However, TSH is a lagging indicator, and in some patients it can take months to rebound. So it definitely is possible to have Free T3 and Free T4 below normal with TSH still supressed. That’s why it is so important to have our "Frees" tested with each set of labs, rather than just TSH. Shortly after my diagnosis, my doctor’s office tried to tell me that my insurance would only pay for TSH testing. I said "great, I’ll pay for the other labs out of pocket." As it turns out, I’ve never had a problem getting labs paid through my insurance provider.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly

    Kimberly
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    I have missed Dianne as well – please give her our best! Hope to see her at the conference in October.

    Kimberly
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    elisebeary wrote: I’m wondering a) if such a small reduction can have any impact on symptoms and b) how long does it typically take to feel a change when reducing medication?

    thanks for your help!
    Elise

    Hi Elise – Every patient is different, but many endos will cut the dose in half once Free T3 and Free T4 are in range.

    In my first 8 weeks on Methimazole, I went from hyper to the BOTTOM of the "normal" range. And I would have ended up in major hypo territory if I hadn’t called my endo when I did to demand a new set of labs.

    If you continue to feel hypo symptoms over the next couple of weeks, I would definitely call your endo’s office and tell them you want new labs done. I know other patients who had a hard time stabilizing on meds once they found themselves in hypo territory, so it’s best to catch it early and adjust the dose accordingly.

    Kimberly
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    I’ve noticed lately that my heart rate really speeds up after a meal. I checked it this morning, and I was at 72 while puttering around the house…then 99 right after breakfast.

    I suppose this makes some sense, as the body has to re-route blood flow to aid in digestion…but I’ve never really paid attention to this before.

    I have an endo appointment in 2 weeks. I was stable when I had my last appointment in April, but I suspect I’m creeping hyper again after 3 weeks of vacation eating!

    Kimberly
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    I have read that birth control pills can bind or "inactivate" our thyroid hormone, which could potentially lower your Free T4. I agree that regular blood work and a chat with your pharmacist is a good idea.

    On the diet issue, I do agree that we need extra protein to rebuild lost muscle mass. However, in popular culture, some people interpret the Atkins diet to mean "all you can eat bacon, eggs, and steak" — I probably wouldn’t go that route. <img decoding=” title=”Razz” />

    I personally find that I do best with a lowfat diet that includes a variety of whole, unprocessed foods…lots of fruits, veggies, lean meats, and whole grains. I do consume some dairy, but I have cut way back due to the iodine content. Also, I read the label on everything that I buy, and if there are ingredients that I can’t pronounce, I (usually) put the package back on the shelf.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly
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    Hi Brenda – Hopefully, you will be able to find some good information. My understanding is that those of us with Graves have a genetic predisposition to getting an autoimmune disease — and them some "trigger" sets the disease off. The trigger can be an illness, a physical injury, something in the environment, or stress.

    I can definitely tell there is a connection between my stress level and my thyroid levels! After diagnosis, I responded quickly to ATDs and remained euthyroid for several months…until I went through a hugely stressful issue at work and I started creeping hyper again. My dose was bumped up a bit, and I also started doing weekly Reiki sessions for stress relief — plus I really worked on not getting so agitated with work issues.

    I got my levels back under control, then went on a 3 week trip to Europe recently. This was the trip I’ve wanted to take my whole life…but I got pretty stressed out trying to wrap things up at work and doing all the normal "going out of town" stuff. The trip was fabulous, but I’m actually feeling some hyper symptoms now. I’m due for labs this month, so it will be interesting to see what the results are.

    Good luck with your research!

    Kimberly
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    Hi Alice – Be sure to check out the Department of Labor website regarding COBRA subsidies. I’m sure there are some exemptions, but employers who lay off workers through the end of this year have to subsidize 65% of the monthly COBRA payment. Then the employers get reimbursed via tax credits.

    Assuming that your employer is required to participate, that should take some of the sting out of the monthly payment.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly
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    Hello,

    If your mom would be open to reading a quick story, you might share "The Spoon Theory" with her. It was developed by a patient living with lupus who got frustrated trying to explain her situation to friends and family because she didn’t "look sick".

    http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/navig … Theory.pdf

    Hope this helps!

    Kimberly
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    A quick note on Methimazole – the FDA bulletin that I read did indicate that there had been 5 cases of liver failure (3 resulting in death) in patients on Methimazole since the FDA started tracking "adverse events" in 1969.

    PTU had 32 reported "adverse events" during that time frame, which resulted in 13 deaths and 11 liver transplants. About 1/3 of the patients were children, which is probably what resulted in this latest warning.

    So the "adverse events" occur to one person about every 4 years on methimazole and one person every year or two on PTU. Pretty small odds, although it sucks if you’re the one! :shock:

    I’ve heard speculation on another board that the number of serious cases could be significantly reduced if more doctors based dosing on Free T3/T4 instead of TSH. Because TSH is a lagging indicator, dosing off of TSH can result in patients taking too high of a dose for too long.

    By the way, the FDA article mentioned that the American Thyroid Association plans to "update" its treatment guidelines for Graves sometime in the next few months. (Hey, thanks for thinking of us! :roll: )

    Kimberly
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    Hello – I have heard that many Graves patients already have elevated liver enzymes…it has something to do with our metabolic rate being out of whack. The reason they run a baseline test is to see if your levels get *worse* while taking the drug.

    On the weight issue, yep, that’s definitly a challenge. I don’t know if it’s the Graves, the drugs, or what, but I find that if I get a little off track with my food plan, I put on weight about 5 times more quickly than I used to…and it’s 10 times harder to get rid of. :evil:

    Your #1 priority for now is to get your thyroid levels in balance…but keeping a journal to track your food intake can be helpful in minimizing any weight gain. You will definitly have to eat less than you did when you were hyper…and you may even find that you have to eat less than you did BEFORE all this started to maintain a specific weight. (Like me :cry: ). Also, once your levels are stabilized (NOT while you are still hyper), doing some activity to re-build your lean muscle mass can help as well.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly
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    lizlair wrote:Well, the good news is that I had an appointment with the eye specialist last Monday and it appears that my TED has finally entered the "cold" phase. The bad news is that I guess I no longer have any excuses to avoid RAI this summer. After two years on Methimazole with varying degrees of success, my endocrinologist would really like for me to take the next step.

    Hello – It doesn’t sound like you are sold on RAI. For those who can maintain their thyroid levels on a lower dose of ATDs, many patients to continue to safely use these drugs past the traditional "2-year mark". If you personally are unhappy with your results from ATDs, then RAI or thyroidectomy are certainly other options…but unless there are complicating factors, the choice should be yours, not your endo’s.

    Best of luck!

    Kimberly
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    ewmb – Sounds like you are on the right track…keep up the great work!

    Brenda – Wow, no wonder you were exhausted! Are you getting your Free T3 and Free T4 tested now? I find that doctors who base dosing solely from TSH don’t reduce our ATD dose quickly enough, as TSH is a lagging indicator. This sends us plummeting towards (or into) hypo territory. While it’s more expensive to test the "Frees", they are MUCH better markers to determine proper dosing. Hopefully, you will start to see your energy rebound without the meds. Keep an eye out for hyper symptoms, though…some folks will see their levels creep up again when the meds are suddenly reduced.

    Peggy – You didn’t mention if you were currently hyper or hypo. I *totally* understand about the weight frustrations, but either way, it’s critical that you get your thyroid levels regulated. If you are unhappy with your doctor’s advice, speak up, ask questions, and negotiate until you end up with a treatment plan that you believe in. Once your levels are under control, the weight loss should be at least a little easier.

    Michelle – Since you have given yourself a year or so before pursuing the medically assisted weight loss again, you might consider some additional research on whether that is the right approach for you at this point in your life. A few questions I would research (or ask the doctor’s office) are:

    1. Graves is not just a thyroid disorder, but an autoimmune disease. We are genetically predisposed to getting an autoimmune disease, but some sort of "trigger" generally sets it off. The "trigger" can be a number of things, including physical injury, emotional stress, or something in the environment. Has the medically assisted weight loss program been used on anyone else with an autoimmune condition? Some of us can speculate on what our "trigger" was, but others will never know for sure. My personal approach is to err on the safe side and try not to bring any extra chemicals into my system (food, meds, etc.) unless it’s absolutely necessary.

    2. Does the program assist with habits and emotional/behavioral issues surrounding food? I know people who have had "quick fixes" with a number of different weight loss programs, but if we return to old habits, the weight tends to return as well.

    3. Does the program have a maintenance plan to help you switch from "losing" mode to "maintenance" mode — and figure out approximately how much food or how many calories you will need to maintain your weight?

    You are 100% correct in focusing first on getting your thyroid levels stabilized…these are just a few more things to think about with everything else on your plate. <img decoding=” title=”Razz” />

    I had another "at goal" weigh in at my Weight Watchers meeting this week. YAY! However, I am heading to Europe soon for a 3 week vacation…so I’m sure I will be fighting the battle again as soon as I get back. I find that I put on weight MUCH quicker now…and I plan to indulge in some gelato, tiramisu, pasta, fish & chips, sachertorte, and strawberries & cream. My goal is to try a little of everything, but NOT eat until I am stuffed…otherwise, I know I will pay dearly when I get back home. <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />

    Kimberly
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    Great advice so far…one thing I would add is to NOT look at the clock. I find that when I do that, it gets my mind racing even faster. (GAAAA! I have to get up and go to work in 4 hours!!!!! :lol: )

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