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  • GWWW
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    I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer with metastasis 3 years ago. I’ve had a total thyroidectomy and external beam radiation to bone metastasis sites. About a year and a half ago I developed symptoms of thyroid eye disease. I recently had lab work confirming that I have the antibodies present in Graves disease.
    Anyone else developed Graves disease after thyroidectomy?
    Thanks.

    Bobbi
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    About ten years ago, many of our doctors stopped calling the eye disease “Graves” eye disease, and began calling it thyroid eye disease, or TED. Why? Because it was cropping up in folks who had never been hyperthyroid, but who had some other form of thyroid problem. But the generations of time where it was called Graves eye disease still linger, and occasionally we find a doctor who diagnoses us with “Graves” when the eye disease appears.

    GWWW
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    Would the same Graves disease antibodies be present in the blood of someone with thyroid eye disease from another cause?
    In the whole scheme of things I need to stay on top of, the eye problem should be the least of my worries but in fact the symptoms bother me a lot and impact my daily life. The endo and ophthalmologist (from a major new England hospital) treating me for TED, seem puzzled by its appearance. I’ve started on a great regimen of eye drops and my symptoms are improving :). Still wondering if anyone else out there has experienced this.
    Thanks so much!

    Kimberly
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    GWWW wrote:
    Would the same Graves disease antibodies be present in the blood of someone with thyroid eye disease from another cause?

    Hello – There’s actually some controversy over this. Some doctors believe that TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulin) testing, which is also diagnostic for Graves’ disease, can help predict the course of Thyroid Eye Disease. Other docs do not believe there is a value in TSI testing for TED patients.

    This is an area where there will hopefully be more research in the future.

    By the way, you might not need these resources anymore, but there are a couple of great organizations that serve Thyroid Cancer patients: ThyCa and Light of Life Foundation. You can get access to their web pages from our “Links” page.

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    http://gdatf.org/about/about-graves-disease/links/

    Wishing you all the best!

    GWWW
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    Thanks so much!
    I do access Thyca and Advanced Thyca but not Light of Life. Will look into that.

    snelsen
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    Hi, I think the most important thing for you to do is to have eye docs familiar with TED, managing your care. Not the endo. If you are having mild symptoms, scratchy eyes, dry eyes, I suggest that you get an appointment with a neuro opthalmologist for a baseline evaluation of your eyes. TED ranges from a spectrum of the symptoms I mentioned above, to more life altering changes, such as double vision. proptosis (eyes bulging out from the orbit) and in some cases, optic neuropathy, which is serious, but can be treated. I suggest you take it a step at a time, beginning here by learning that there are two phases to TED, the active or hot phase, which can last around 9 months to between 1, 1 1/2 years. During this phase, eyes are changing all the time. During the active phase, no surgery is done, because the measurements and symptoms are not stable. The exception is the optic neuropathy, which I mentioned above. That is when there is pressure (from the increased bulk of the eye muscles, and increased orbital fat) push on the optic nerve. Then an orbital decompression must be done to save vision. Few people have this problem. (but I did.)
    When you get to the inactive phase, or cold phase. everything is stable, and if surgical interventions need to be done, it is at this time they are done. There is an order, or progression of surgeries than can be performed at this time if needed.

    As you said, in the whole scheme of things, having good care for your eyes is the thing that matters. Whether your antibodies are up or down, makes no difference in the treatment and management of TED. So you are doing it
    the best way you can.
    Shirley

    GWWW
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    Thanks Shirley. Sounds like you have been through a lot. Hopefully doing well now.
    I saw a neuro ophthalmologist twice at Mass. Eye and Ear last year. They have my baseline info. My double vision only occurs when I am laying down, or if I’ve fallen asleep sitting up it takes a couple to 5 minutes to return to single vision. I tried prisms but decided against them.
    I’ll continue to see my local ophthalmologist to manage the other symptoms.
    Symptoms have been present for about 15 months. I am hoping to enter the inactive phase soon.
    Thanks again for your help.

    Jean

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