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  • vanillasky
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    Since I have Graves’ Disease, I don’t go around broadcasting it, but I run into people who ask “how are you?” And if I tell them, they seem to step back a few feet. How do they think? Do they think they can get exposed to Graves’? Or is it just ignorance not knowing what exactly is Graves’?

    Made me feel bad today but then I say the heck with it. I have bigger fish to fry

    Karen:/

    catstuart7
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    I’ve heard of others having that reaction before! My experience so far is that it’s just not worth trying to explain it because it’s too complicated. I’ll get “well you look okay” like they can’t comprehend I’m actually dealing with anything serious. Or they will compare to hypothyroid/hashimoto’s which is certainly significant but not the same deal as Graves’. These days I just say I have significant health issues and leave it to their imagination.

    snelsen
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    I think it is always good for all of us to ask ourselves this question.

    “Did I know anything about Graves’ before I ended up with Graves’?

    Judging from my own experience, and from all the posts from people who come on this board/forum for the first time, I propose that the answer is
    close to 100% “NO!”

    Following the thoughts I have stated above, I would hazard to say that all of us, with few exceptions, did not have the education, knowledge or even awareness, of the implications of Graves’. Even if we had a relative, or heard of a relative who had a “thyroid problem,” or Graves’, we still did not understand how it impacted their lives. Just as friends, family and employers do not understand how it impacts our lives.

    Even people in the health care profession, as I have been for many decades as an RN with a Masters, really don’t have much of an idea of the experiences a person with Graves’ endures. Sure, I learned in endocrinology all about the feedback loop, the lab tests, probably even read some of the signs and symptoms (though I do not remember them meaning much one way or the other.)

    So, yes, I am one of those people who didn’t “get it,” who had little to no knowledge of Graves’ (NOT TO MENTION TED!!!!) before I had it. I can assure you that aside from the people on this forum are the ONLY people who have a clue of the absolute HELL I gone through with TED.

    Graves’ is a lesser known endocrine process by the general public. Diabetes, primarily because of the epidemic occurrence that exists now, and celiac disease, more familiar now because of the publicity about gluten intolerance, are examples of diseases that are a bit more familiar to the public.

    In conclusion, we can pass our knowledge and experience forward (after we feel stable and more like ourselves,and feel GOOD) and take the opportunity whenever possible, to educate our friends and family, and definitely “be there” for anyone we meet in the future who ends up with Graves’.

    This kind of thinking has helped me as I have struggled with Graves’, TED, and two very advanced breast cancers. It does help me, very much, to talk and write with others who have had the same experiences, and resumed to a reasonable state of health.
    Shirley

    vanillasky
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    I guess I was the exception about knowing what Graves’ was because as a child, my father got thyroid cancer, so we made it our business to know and understand all types of thyroid diseases.

    My mother would always tell me she saw people with a goiter and she would tell me about people with thyroid eye disease so I knew at an early age, what Graves’ hypothyroidism, (never heard the name Hashimotos) and of course, malignant thyroid nodules were, which my father had.

    I sympathize with you, Shirley, struggling with TED. I have seen it and I run the risk of it myself, but as you say, aside from this forum, it’s really not heard of for the general population, like you say “Diabetes.” I guess maybe we should have gotten something more simple? (sorry, that’s my sick sense of humor):/

    snelsen
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    No, your comment is based on reality and research. Right on! You nailed it!

    To have an “invisible disability” is much, much more challenging that a sling on your arm, a cast on a leg, or even the red/white cane of a blind person, and/ or a seeing eye dog.

    People with very disabling disabilities have a much more challenging life, with people assuming they are just fine!

    Gosh, yes, you are definitely an exception, knowing and understand your family history.
    shirley

    ChristinaDe
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    Shirley ~ I think your perspective, your suggestion to ask ourselves THE question…did we really know what Graves’ was before getting the diagnosis ourselves? I mean “really” know. Like Karen, I experienced a ton of frustration with people…including my own docs even…not fully understanding my new disease. I got so sick of trying to explain it to everyone. I still get sick of it. And I really get sick of the usual response that I “look fine”. Or that I’m lucky it’s not cancer.

    And like you, Shirley, I am an RN with a master’s degree…and yet, I knew very little about Graves’ and what people actually go through. I thought it was treatable, that after treatment people were fine on their little Synthroid pill, and that the only eye problem was the obvious bulging. No bulging, no eye problem. Now I know different. A person’s eyes can look swollen, aged, and baggy – and be very sore and have visual issues – and yet no bulging. They’re suffering but I didn’t know that then. I had no idea that a person could be in the therapeutic range on Synthroid, yet still feel hyper or hypo. I had no idea just how bad hypo or hyper could feel, or that you could feel that way and still be within the “normal” range on labs. I knew I needed to help my patient’s avoid a thyroid storm at all costs…and that a storm was serious business, but short of that I think I saw the disease more as a nuisance problem. Not deadly or anything. I sure didn’t get the mood thing or the fact that a patient’s moods are damn near uncontrollable when things are at their worst. Everything about the disease seemed smaller than it does to me now, more manageable. In retrospect, I knew so little about what the disease actually does. And in all my years of clinical nursing, I can only recall meeting one patient with Graves’. So although we see so many others with it on this forum, in reality, the disease is a bit of an orphan.

    I think that I’m going to keep asking myself that question Shirley…what did “I” know before “I” got the diagnosis, before “I” lived the symptoms and treatments, and before “I” did gobs of hours of research?

    As I feel better and calmer, I notice that my ability to educate others, to make them understand exactly what this is – an incurable autoimmune disease, not just a thyroid problem – has improved. Most people think what I once thought…stop the thyroid problem, stop the disease, stop all the symptoms & eye issues, etc. Oh, and regulating thyroid levels with medication? I thought that was pretty straight forward as well. WRONG! I now tell people that my thyroid problem is ONE aspect of what my autoimmune disease causes. There are others. I fix the aspects I can…TT for the thyroid, later surgery for my non-bulging but still affected eyes, and whatever else may come. I tell them that while there is medication to synthetically replace my thyroid hormones, the range is so narrow and the therapeutic range on lab sheets is arbitrary. That each individual’s sweet spot is in reality an even narrow range & can be hard to pinpoint. And once found, a million little things can change how the pill is absorbed – sending you out of your sweet spot and back to the drawing board. To make matters worse, it takes weeks to find out if an adjustment is right…that’s weeks that may run into months if more than one adjustment is needed. So the possibility of months of feeling really hyper or really hypo. And I describe hyper to them as that feeling you have when you’ve just been severely startled, that feeling that lasts a few seconds to minutes where your heart races and all your senses are on edge and you want everyone to leave you alone until you can calm down. But in the case of a person who’s hyper it lasts all day, all night, for days/weeks/months/years on end…and it’s scary and frustrating and exhausting and stressful and maddening. Makes dealing with even the smallest thing overwhelming. I tell them that Graves’ and all it does and affects is something that I need to manage and watch for life, it’s something with ups and downs, good days/weeks & bad, major victories and defeats. People seem to get that part.

    But I wasn’t able to get them there until my thyroid levels were down. I was just too “foggy” and too angry then.

    Karen, you are going through such a rough stretch right now. I hear your pain in every post, and I remember feeling that pain so well. I know it doesn’t feel like it’s even possible, but it does get better. Keep on fighting. And keep reaching out. You have a lot of fight in you (and this disease requires a big chunk of that, so “fight” is a good thing!). You’ll win. One battle at a time.

    vanillasky
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    Thanks, Christina! Your post is encouraging.

    I had someone ask me yesterday if I could feel my feet because of the Graves’ disease? LOL! I had to laugh at that one.

    Kimberly
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    @Karen – You’ve received some really thoughtful responses here! I think that part of the issue is the name “Graves’ disease” — which is unfortunate.

    Sir Robert Graves got the credit for documenting the symptoms associated with GD, although perhaps we all would have been better off if one of the other gentlemen (Parry or Von Basedow) who were researching the condition at around the same time had gotten credit!

    vanillasky
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    @Kimberly! LOL! “Graves” doesn’t sound too good, does it?

    Too bad his name wasn’t Smith or Jones. ;);)

    catstuart7
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    Great point Shirley – I didn’t have a clue about Graves’ until I got it and did countless hours of research.

    jclark3
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    Yeah. I think it’s the “disease” part. People seem to automatically associate disease with contagious.

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