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13 years of Graves, plan to TT, am i making a right decision?
Diagnosed of graves 13 years ago, relapses 3 times, now on 15mg of methmazole daily. Thyroid gland enlarged, eyes mildly affected, doctor says my thyroid weight over 100 gram while a normal person is 20 g.
I am so worry about the side effects of surgery, and the weight gain afterwards. The idea of removing an organ from my body is scary. I dont know if I am making a right decision?
Hello and welcome – the final decision on a treatment option for Graves’ is a very personal decision that you will need to make after doing your research and consulting with your doctor.
ALL three of the treatment options (anti-thyroid drugs, surgery, RAI) have risks and benefits…the “Treatment Options” thread in the announcements section of this forum has two great links that go through the pros and cons. This forum also has a search function (in the top right-hand corner of the screen), so you can run a search for “methimazole”, “RAI”, “thyroidectomy”, “surgery”, etc. to read stories from other patients.
We do have some regular posters here who have chosen surgery as their treatment option, and others who have surgery scheduled in the near future. Hopefully, they will chime in here to share their experiences. In the meantime, this is a nice site from the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons that will hopefully be of interest:
(Note on links: if you click directly on the following link, you will need to use your browser’s “back” button to return to the boards after viewing, or you will have to log back in to the forum. As an alternative, you can right-click the link and open it in a new tab or new window).
http://www.endocrinediseases.org/thyroid/thyroid_background.shtml
Take care – and please keep us posted on your progress.
Welcome. Many of us have journals on this forum and have recently gone thru TT (mine is under Gabe’s TT 5/31/13; Talley has one; Sueandherzoo is next week; Amy, Bill, Alexis, etc). You’ll find plenty of info on is forum. My opinion. Nothing to be afraid of. Very easy recovery…so far, so good for me.
Karen
Hi!
I had surgery a year ago and am doing well now! Very happy with my choice. Not to say it was easy, but I did have a successful surgery with no complications and was able to get my thyroid hormones (synthroid) stable with only one dose change. I started to feel good again about 4 months post surgery. I have not gained any weight in the last year.
Like Kimberly said, everyone is different, and you must do your research and make the right decision for you with your doctor’s guidance. My doctor (for example) wanted me to do RAI. Although he didn’t recommend surgery, he supported me in my decision as I was a good candidate (healthy, stable, in range thyroid hormones). He felt taking a pill was a “no brainer” and far easier, less intrusive. For me, it was not. I have 4 young children and was (and am still) breastfeeding. I would have had to wean my baby, which I wasn’t willing to do if I didn’t have to. I also didn’t want radiation in my system if it wasn’t necessary. My other thought was I wanted it “done and over with” so to speak. I didn’t want to wait for my thyroid to die and then have a dead gland in my body. Again, just my personal feelings on it all. I started Synthroid on day 2 after surgery and didn’t go anymore hypo than a TSH of 6.35 or so. I was upped from 100 mcg to 112 mcg 6 weeks post surgery and have been on that ever since with a TSH that fluctuates from 0.29 to 1.6 depending on the month and lab. But, I do feel fine most of the time.
I exercise, eat healthy, homeschool my boys, and live a happy and active life once again. Surgery gave me my health back. It isn’t perfect, but what is, right? I chose surgery bc methimazole caused me liver issues (very elevated enzymes) so, I actually chose surgery just after being on methimazole for 7 weeks. It was a quicker decision than I anticipated, but I think it was a blessing in disguise as I was able to move on with life quicker and not have to worry about the ATD’s long term or relapses if I went into remission. Good luck on your decision.
I understand your concern about removing an organ from your body….I am sure all of us, that have gone through surgery or RAI felt reservations as well. Like you, I was ill for a long time, and…even though I have had a difficult time getting leveled on replacement hormone, I have not wished to turn back the clock. Yes, I did gain a bit more weight, but it is coming off. My eyes, got much better, after the surgery.
It was a hard decision for me to make too.Ruby in Reno
Hi mamama28!!
Some thoughts regarding organs!
Maybe it is a good idea to think of organs this way. Just because we have them, does not always mean they function perfectly, or at all. Sometimes they need to go away so that we CAN be healthy. Sometimes, it is urgent to remove a particular organ to save our lives or help us regain our health.An appendix is a good example, and tonsils and/or adenoids (in certain instances) is another. Of course, when an organ has malignant cancer, uterus, ovaries, uterus, breasts, prostate, to keep them would be downright wrong, in my estimation.
Regarding decision making, it seems that most everyone on this forum, once they HAVE made their decision, feels vast relief, and begins to anticipate feeling better again. Indecision for me, is much more disturbing and worrisome to me.
Don’t know if these thoughts will help you.genuinruby!!! HOW NICE to hear from you again!! Glad you are doing well.
ShirleyHi there;
Read all you can and then make a decision that feels “right” for you.
I had a TT three weeks ago. Turns out they found a small cancer on my thyroid after it was removed…not sure what would have happened if I had done nothing or if I had RAI. So, I am glad I had it removed. I am not happy about the weight gain post-TT…I am amazed that I am gaining weight rapidly – nothing other than the surgery has changed. Hoping this will be resolved soon.
As far as having it removed. I felt better psychologically knowing it was gone rather than “dead” inside me…weird, I know, but we all think about things different.
Good luck with your decision!
Thank you for all your replies.
many things that i worry about, some are urban myth because many doctors dont recognize as problems
1. weight gain
2. depression
3. side effects of synthroid (some say fatigue, loss hair)
4. unable to convert t4 to t3Hello – Hopefully, others who have been through surgery will chime in again, but a couple of comments…
Weight issues are very individual. We’ve heard from a wide range of patients here over the hears who have chosen all three treatment options: anti-thyroid drugs, RAI, and surgery. Some have struggled with weight, while others have not…and I haven’t been able to spot a pattern with a particular treatment option.
It’s believed that there is a *small* number of patients who are unable to convert T4 to T3 effectively. We are seeing more doctors recently who are amenable to letting patients try T3/T4 combination therapy. The European Thyroid Association released some guidelines last year that make a lot of sense. They recommend T4-only therapy for at least six months – and if the patient is still symptomatic, ruling out any other conditions that could be causing the symptoms and ensuring that the patient is compliant with dosing guidelines (taking meds consistently on an empty stomach, avoiding soy/calcium/iron within 4 hours, etc.). Once other causes have been ruled out, they recommend a short trial of synthetic T3, with a follow up evaluation to see if symptoms have improved.
Being on an incorrect dose of Synthroid (or having levels swinging up or down) can certainly cause issues with hair and energy levels. Rarely, patients can react to the fillers/dyes in color-coded replacement hormone tablets. If this happens, there is usually one non-color coded dose that you can switch to and adjust the number of tablets appropriately. Or there is a fairly new drug called Tirosint that comes in gel form without dyes and fillers.
In terms of depression, we’ve heard from a couple of post-thyroidectomy patients on this (hopefully, they will check in), but it appears to be a transient issue, and not a longer-term one.
Well,
weight gain is a big subject. Some people who have been hyper have loved the fact that they lost weight at that time (much was muscle wasting, and it is not a good weight loss) Nevertheless, it is natural, when we are well again, to gain muscle (if we use them….) and gain weight we have lost. Basically, we will be like what were were like before all this happened. Of course, many factors come to play because we are women. So depends on the time in our life. Another factor is, that Graves’ or no Graves’, we are not the people we were when we were 20. Having said all this, I know this has been a complaint of some people, all women. I guess the best thing to to is to control all the variables that you know about for good health, good nutrition, no binging, exercise, and all that. If we had a few extra pounds before Graves’, there is no particular reason that they would not come back if we do the same thing.
ANd, as I said, time marches on, and as the years pass, our activity level, life situations etc and etc change.
Have a TT or RAI or ATD does not MEAN weight gain. It means health.Depression-Other than recovering from anesthesia, I was so darn happy to TAKE ACTION about Graves’, that I was not depressed at all. I was scared and depressed when it all started and I was hyper, because I sure did not want to live like THAT!
I have taken Synthroid for over 30 years. I have not had hair loss, and any fatigue I have had is related to other health problems.
T3 to T4-dunno. If Synthroid “works” at the right sweet spot, you are golden. Sometimes it takes a while to get there. Same with any of the choices.
Some people worry more than others, too. It is natural to worry about the unknown. But at least is a good unknown, a better life and not hyper or hypo. Word of caution, though, it takes some time to get to where you want to be. The body pretty much decides this, plus some labs.
ShirleyAnother thing troubles me is FDA says Syndroid lack of potency and inconsistent in dosage
Hi,
I have had Graves now since I was 26 years old. I am now 32. I was extremely ill when diagnosed and lost weight rapidly as well as had all the other symptoms. I decided to just be monitored every month for the first year and second year off and on unitl stabilized with my level. It has been a struggle. I have had remission twice. I have used Methimazole as well as my treatment and only that. I have been to many endo’s and PCP’s throughout the years. They all have different ideas of whats best. So…I did my own digging and for me the best option out of the three they give us is the Methimazole. 6 years ago I remember the endo’s telling me that being on Methimazole was not so good for long periods of time(but when i looked and investigated a little I found out that in Europe this was the treatment of choice)…Then recently I changed Endo’s and they actually stated to me (years later) that they agreed that it is ok to be on Methimazole for however long just not a high dose for too long at a time. It can affect your liver. However, this usually does not happen.
My true issue has been that I do not want surgery and i do not want RAI. These two options give you no hope except to be on MED’s forever! That bothers me. I understand for some this is the right choice for good reasons; but these choices also have complications at times.
I have changed my eating habits completely. I eat whole foods, I try to stay away from packaged foods and artificial sweeteners. I run, bike, workout six times a week at least for 15 minutes a day. I eliminated people in my life that caused me stress (at least on a day to day basis). I also do yoga…This has all helped. Right now I am on the Methimazole 10mg once a day. I got back on the meds about 4 months ago as I felt the very light symptoms coming on…(nothing major)so the pcp checked my levels and I am already slowly coming off the meds.
So …from my experience..I would rather hav e a glimps of hope to be the small percentage of graves PT’s that go into remission rather then to be on pills everyday the rest of my life.
But its a very personal chioce no matter what. ……Hi mamama28, everyone has offered good advice! I had RAI and did have some hair thinning and weight gain (about 20 lbs), even though I have been eating very healthy, my weight was down to 119 lbs when I was in the throes of graves with a heart rate of 180 bpm, I had he muscle loss and wasting (not the good weight loss), but in the end it is all better than what I was experiencing being hyper, I would not want to go back to how sick I was. I have days of not feeling well and feeling depressed but my endo is wonderful and when I tell him how I am feeling, he acknowledges it and does not blow it off, he tells me everything that I am feeling is real and as a result of being very, very sick and it will take awhile to feel better again. Knowing that he understands and knowing what I am currently going through and feeling helps. Also having the support of the people on this website also helps, they listen, offer advice and are there to hear you vent on your bad days. Things will get better, it just takes time!
Good Luck on your journey,
Karen
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