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I went to the doctor yesterday for my 3 week “follow up”…since my last appointment I have been taking cytomel (currently on 15 mcg), synthroid (100mcg) and a multitude of supplements, vitamins, etc.
To be honest, I was feeling somewhat disappointed after the appointment. Doctor said that my last set of labs revealed that while I do not have lupus, I have mixed connective tissue disease. Beginning today, I started prednisone in very strong doses for the next 5 days (60mg, 40, 40, 20, 20). I am hoping that this works, but am feeling pretty apethetic about the entire situation. In addition my cytomel dose is now 10mcg 2 days in a row and 5mcg every 3rd day. Factor in all of the supplements and vitamins and I am overwhelmed! Maybe its not that much, but prior to my GD I would rarely pop an advil.
I think I previously mentioned that my doc is also very big into eliminating wheat in the diet. So now my diet is 100% gluten free. Probably not that big of a deal, but with everything else it just seems like something else I have to deal with. Has anyone else done gluten-free?
I think that while progress is expected to move slowly, I am still struggling with just accepting a new way of life. I have a job interview on friday, and I should be looking forward to life in general, but I struggle with getting lost in the “craziness” that is this disease and the feeling that things are not going to improve. I almost feel like I am living in fear of my own body and health… Gotta keep the faith, right?
Oh, Allie!
That is a lot for you to deal with and think and worry about…. But good that you do not have lupus. When read about connective tissue disease, go to a reliable website, NIH, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, University of Washingon medical center are suggestions. I know at least six people with connective tissue disease. Most of them go to a good rheumatologist for continuing care. It is complex, and in the long run, you need a doc who really does work with that a lot.I have taken prednisone several times. I don’t like it much, but you are taking a very short course. Perhaps to see if it helps you. Do you mean that you take each of those doses one day for five days, tapering to 20 mgm?
I have some questions, primarily based on my concern about your complicated regimen of meds and supplements, and also from what I do and what I have learned. I know you have lived long enough that each doctor may prescribe different things, have different thought of treatment, and of course, you have your own preferences and opinions, too. I respect that a lot.
My thoughts with questions.
1. Is it your idea or someone else’s to take a lot of supplements?
I ask, because i don’t take any of them. I did have my Vitamin D checked, it is super fine (50.)
I have a cardiologist, for I have some heart stuff going on, and the cardiologists are pretty much concluding from some long term longitudinal studies, that unless there is a deficiency, it makes no difference one way or the other. Assuming you/we eat balanced meals, and eat basically the way we have eaten all of our lives, it has been nutritionally healthy and balanced. There is an interesting article in the Science Section of the NYT on this very subject (i think it was today.)
My question behind my question, is I am wondering if you can work on taking many less pills of all kinds. But depends on your belief system on all of this. It is a big industry, it makes lots of money. So that is my two cents on that subject.2. Next…
There REALLY is controversy about Cytomel. I do not recall how long you have been taking thyroid supplements. Most endos don’t encourage it, and some will prescribe it if the patient asks for it. Some do, if the patients ask for it, because they just don’t feel well, or feel tired, and think it will help. The downside of it is that it metabolizes VERY quickly, and so there is a big “dump” of the T3 (cytomel) and then it is gone. So a person can potentially feel more energy, then feel a crash. So the schedule you are on now is very hard, and you should be taught about the drug,and what to expect about it. Also, you should know fairly quickly if it does or does not make you feel better. Most people who want it, simply stop it, saying they could not tell any difference.
A good conversation to have with your doc.Here is a short explanation of what I am explaining from the FDA:
Quoting from the discussion.Pharmacokinetics (means how it works (my words!)
Since liothyronine sodium (T3) is not firmly bound to serum protein, it is readily available to body tissues. The onset of activity of liothyronine sodium is rapid, occurring within a few hours. Maximum pharmacologic response occurs within 2 or 3 days, providing early clinical response. The biological half-life is about 2-1/2 days.
T3 is almost totally absorbed, 95 percent in 4 hours. The hormones contained in the natural preparations are absorbed in a manner similar to the synthetic hormones.
Liothyronine sodium has a rapid cutoff of activity which permits quick dosage adjustment and facilitates control of the effects of overdosage, should they occur.
So it worth questioning his rationale. Most docs try very, very hard NOT to have meds on certain days and not others. This really tough to be compliant with.3. I just HAVE TO ASK! My thought is that suddenly, or gradually becoming gluten free is a VERY BIG DEAL! And another bandwagon that everyone and their brother seems to be jumping on now. Why has he told you to have a 100% gluten free diet?
What is his reasoning? This is very very difficult, and if you have symptoms, and you know it, a trial of eating less wheat, or no wheat, rye and barley for a week or two should tell you something, one way or they other. Most people say they have GI symtoms, bloating, and more if they eat gluten. They may have gluten insensitivity.
Celiac disease, is a whole different ball game. Usually, you would have known long ago, if that were anything you were dealing with. There is a very sensitive lab test for celiac disease, if you have concern about it.So these thoughts and questions of mine are “food for thought.” For you.
I would really ask your doc his reasoning.
In the meantime, have a great job interview,and believe that you will feel better and get your old self back. It will happen.In conclusion, maybe another day we can discuss the thought of you getting a second opinion…..
ShirleyHello – Shirley gave you some great things to think about. In terms of gluten, the evidence at this point seems to be primarily anecdotal. There are some patients who say they either feel better or they have been able to reduce medications by going gluten-free. But I just haven’t seen any really good research that supports a gluten-free diet *except* for those who have the autoimmune condition celiac disease. For patients with celiac, a gluten-free diet is mandatory. I’ve gone gluten-free during a couple of phases of my Graves’ journey. Personally, I find that I have fewer GI symptoms if I don’t go *totally* overboard on gluten, but I really didn’t see a benefit from eliminating it completely. If you are committed to this lifestyle, I would google “Gluten-Free Girl”. She’s a well-known author and blogger who has celiac and is great with gluten-free recipes.
If you are struggling with remembering to take meds, those little plastic containers with separate compartments for each day of the week (some even separate into AM/PM) are really helpful. Or if you are more technologically inclined than I am, reminders on your cell phone are good, too.
Shirley-
I am on the short course with the prednisone, and will be tapering down to 20mg over the next four days. Doctor thinks that maybe that will help with the inflammation. My ANA test from a few weeks ago was very high (I think 2650) so he thought that trying a high dosage over a few days could bring some of that down.
Additionally, this is why he has suggested the supplements (fish oil, vitamin D, magnesium, multivitamin, etc). I was deficient on D and Mag, so those needed to come up, but he said that most people my age are deficient. Even though these are by no means “street drugs” or anything over the top, I rarely pop a tylenol! Now taking a handful of meds each day seems like a lot, but maybe necessary. I am going to look into that article for sure. This was also why the gluten-free was discussed… my doc mentioned at the first appointment that he believes nutrition to be the best medicine (which I feel is fair) — his argument is that wheat is very inflammatory and could be causing additional problems. Hey, if it helps, i’ll try it!
As far as the cytomel goes, I have been researching and have heard good and bad things. I have been on it for 3 1/2 weeks now and feel no change. I should have pushed my doctor more to find out his reasoning for having 10mcg on some days and 5mcg on others. My last labs (a few weeks ago) showed that my T4 was almost normal range but my T3 was low, so this was the first course of action. I asked about Armour as well, but the doc doesn’t think that we should jump into that just yet.
I am going to try to stay positive and see how this prednisone does. I could not sleep a wink last night!
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