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  • wilsonc
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    Hi all,

    I have Graves Disease and was looking for some information from other moms out there. I have been on my meds for about one year exactly and everything has been going well, almost back to normal. I am currently taking Methimazole(sp) and told my Dr. that I wanted to try for another child. I am reaching the point where it is now or never. He assured me that it would more than likely be ok. My thyroid is being controlled very well by the meds I am taking but if I wanted to become pregnant that I would need to switch to the PTU since it typically a little better for baby. I want to know from other moms out there that have been pregnant and that have taken this drug. Have your children been healthy, no problems? That is what is concerning me now. The idea that I could harm an infant without meaning to would devastate me. so just any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you so much,
    Christa

    LaurelM
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    Hi Christa,

    I had been on methimazole for about a year and was well controlled when I became pregnant with our 2nd. (She was ahead of our schedule and still has us running to catch up.) I was switched to PTU and was on a small dose for about 6-7 weeks into the pregnancy (when I could keep it down :lol: ). I was able to stop taking it. Apparently I was probably headed to remission and the pregnancy may have sealed the deal. My ‘baby’ is now a happy and healthy 3 year old and I have remained in remission. I didn’t really expect the remission to stick post-partum since I was diagnosed 8 months after our first child was born. In hindsight I am sure the onset was really at about 4 month post-partum. I just assumed all the symptoms were ‘normal’ post pregnancy stuff.

    I would have to say that I had the advantage of the best possible care for my pregnancy. I was referred to a high risk OB who worked closely with my endo and PCP. That said, being on medication when I became pregnant was still very worrisome. I stressed over the Catagory D rating. I read everything I could find about birth defects with ATDs. I worried about what would happen if my levels went wonky during pregnancy. Would we be able to safely contol it? I read probably too much but learning all I could WAS something I could control. I was also concerned about relapse post-partum. I was kind of waiting for that shoe to drop for a whole year after she was born. I think that if we had been thinking 2nd child right away, I may have opted for surgery. At the time I didn’t want RAI as I was nursing and my endo was very supportive of that.

    Everything worked out really well for us. One thing you may want to consider is where your TSI level is currently. This is the measurement of your auto-antibody level. If it is high, you may be less likely to be heading for remission and may have more need for ATDs during the pregnancy. Oddly, I broke out in hives right when we conceived so swapping to PTU was done based on the hives and the potential pregnancy (my blood test to confirm wasn’t back yet but we just assumed I was – it was too early for a home pregnancy test). This also meant that I had only one ATD option should I have needed it. I personally like to have more options than just one.

    TSI should also be measured somewhere near the start of the 3rd trimester regardless of what treatment you have choosen. This will give an indicator of the possibilty of Neonatal Graves Disease. This is a very very rare transitory hyperthyroid state for the baby caused by the auto-antibodies crossing the placenta. Your baby’s Dr should be informed of your Graves history as they will need to keep a tad closer eye on the baby for a couple of months after birth. Also, if you need to go back on ATDs after birth, they may want to monitor your baby’s thyroid levels while you nurse. We did this for several months with our first and it was always fine. The American Academy of Pediatrics has published a policy statement regarding ATDs and breastfeeding that you may want to read.

    I hope that this was somewhat helpful.

    Laurel

    wilsonc
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    Hi Laurel
    Thank you so much for the reply. Hearing what you have said has made me feel better. My husband and I have both being doing a ton of research and found that in most cases everything tends to turn out fine but just as you have mentioned being monitored constantly is a must. I was thinking of waiting a little longer with the becoming pregnant but I want my kids to be close in age and my son is going on 3 now and I feel like if I wait too long I won’t want to have another because of the age difference. Our situations sound very similar. I had my son and everything was fine, no symptoms or anything but when we moved to SC is when things started going crazy, my son was going on 2 then so I am not sure if my pregnancy stirred something up. My endo (who I just had an app with a few days ago) said that becoming pregnant now shouldn’t be a problem. He was onboard and didn’t discourage me which made me feel better about my decision. I have a friend who is hypo and it seems like if you are hypo things are a lot better for you and the baby. I guess because hypo is a lot less risky. I want to nurse but if I am taking meds I wasn’t sure if that would be the best thing for the baby. so I am unsure about that. Did your baby have any problems after delivery? I have read that they sometimes give the baby a blood test to check on their thyroid levels. Do you know anyone else who has had to deal with this problem and if so what was their outcome?
    Thank you so much for your reply:)
    Christa

    LaurelM
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    Hi Again Christa,

    In my state our Dept. of Health actually conducts newborn health screening panels twice. One before you leave the hospital after birth and then again at 7-14 days following birth. Thyroid levels are included in theses panels along with a host of other tests. You should be able to ask your pediatrician or family physician about what happens in your state or you may be able to look it up on your state’s web site. You may also want to discuss your concerns with pediatrician before your baby is born so that they are aware of the situation. We use a family physician (also an associate prof. of medicine at our local medical school) as our primary care so she already knew me and my history. She was always great about checking with pediatric endos for specialized questions like the nursing while on ATDs (methimazole). My endo was supportive of it, my PCP was supportive, and the pediatric endo was fine with it. We just had a thyroid level check on our baby every 6-8 weeks just to be cautious but her numbers always came back fine.

    I don’t know any other Grave’s moms personally but there are many here on this site. If you do some searching and scan through older posts you will see lots of pregnancy related questions. Hopefully someone else will see your post and describe their experiences too.

    Laurel

    hockey
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    Hi Christa,

    Some of what you have gone/are going through sounds familiar.

    I went to my GP for a physical in Jan/04 as we were having trouble getting pregnant & so my dr. ordered standard blood tests, including TSH. I went back in a month to review the results with him – at the time, he didn’t mention anything & I really didn’t notice anything unusual. Looking back, I had some symptoms – sensitivity to the lights in the office, irritability (mostly though b/c there were other women in the office getting pregnant & I wanted to be), increased hr – I was really sucking wind while playing a hockey game, just thought I was out of shape as I hadn’t been going to the gym as frequently). So, I went back to get the results, & my dr. said I was hyperthyroid & was going to refer me to a specialist (endo). Surprisingly I got into the endo’s office within a week (my #s were really out of whack – T4 was 49 – Cdn numbers). In the meantime, I thought all would be OK seeing as how between getting the blood test results & seeing/talking to the endo I found out I was pregnant.

    I went to the endo anyhow – as they said I NEEDED to, took my husband too. The endo told me I really HAD to go on PTU – knowing I was pregnant – as there is an increased risk in miscarriage if you are hyper, along with other things. So, I ended up being on PTU for aprx. 4 mths of my pregnancy. I had weekly blood tests to monitor & was on the lowest dose possible to maintain normal thyroid levels. He started at 50mg, the highest I was at was 50 mg 3x/day (or 150). I think I was only on the 150 mg’s for aprx. 1 mth, then as the pregnancy went along, the dose was lowered until I was able to be off the medicine completely. I was VERY reluctant to take the medicine (in general, I’m not really one to take tylenol if I have a headache, I usually just work through it), but did in the end take it.

    The OB I went to was surprised that I was still on PTU when I saw him at around 22 wks, but he knew the endo & told me my endo is a walking encyclopedia so I felt a little better and shortly after that, I was off of the meds anyhow.

    As far as my child’s health – all went well throughout pregnancy & delivery (born 10 days early). My endo had said that as long as I was in a normal range, then there was little chance my baby would be hyper/hypo at birth – the hospital did a routine thyroid check at birth & it was ok. My endo did suggest though to avoid iodine (for epidural, they used some other disinfectant) as it could cause a flare-up of graves due to excess iodine I may absorb – it was just precautionary & didn’t seem to be a big deal. I remember the anethetist preferred iodine but that’s mostly because you can ‘see’ it going on rather than trying to make sure my back was painted with the cleaning agent.

    After pregnancy, I became hyper aprx. 4 mths after delivery (had bi-weekly blood tests for first 3 mths, then monthly). I went on PTU again as I wanted to continue nursing. I was on PTU for aprx. 5 mths until I stopped it due to excruciating joint pain, turns out I am allergic to PTU. My endo didn’t agree the joing pain was caused by PTU, however, I had blood tests along with x-rays of all my sore joints (essentially all joints as everything – wrists, ankles, shoulders, knees, hips were affected & bi-laterally too) & they came back showing no osteo or rhumeutoid arthritis. When I stopped the PTU & it was out of my system, the pain went away, so on I went. I remained hyper, my levels were slightly higher, but no-where near where they had been prior to diagnosis.

    Now, my child is a healthy 5 year old! As for my child’s health, the only thing is he seems to have some allergies to animals (cats?) and is also allergic to peanuts, however, these allergies also run in my family. So far, nothing thyroid related & I keep my fingers crossed all the time there won’t be any problems. I can tell you there have been many instances (before/during/after pregnancy) when I’ve worried/wondered if the PTU did anything, but so far I can’t seen any evidance in it.

    My endo pushed to do RAI when I became hyper post-partum, but I continued to say no as I was nursing & then too because I wanted my kids to be close in age. I didn’t want to wait for 1 yr before trying to get pregnant post RAI (or even with surgery b/c I knew you still needed to achieve stable levels through replacement). So, I continued on being hyper & got pregnant rather easitly. For pregnancy #2, again, I started out hyper (this time around, no meds though), had frequent blood tests (bi-weekly) & my body regulated itself around the 4th-5th month. I was ‘normal’ until 4 mths post-partum (Feb 2007). Again, I was nursing, so chose to do nothing. I kept putting off making any kind of decision as I was ‘nursing’ & ended up nursing for much longer than I had ever planned.

    Was there a difference in the pregnancies as the first I was on PTU & the 2nd I was not? I can’t say there was. Were there any concerns with either pregnancy? Not really, only my OB thought my 2nd child was on the small side & sent me for a 3rd ultrasound around the 30 week mark. In the end, my 2nd child was born 4 days late & was BIGGER (8lbs 10 oz in comparison to my first 7lbs 2oz) – so go figure that he thought my 2nd child (now 3) was maybe on the small side.

    In the end, I continued to do nothign for my thyroid – let the numbers stay where they were. Then, I seemed to become more symptomatic – anxious & irritable, so I tried accupuncture & some homeopathic stuff (not a true believer in ‘home remedies’ but I didn’t want surgery or RAI so thought I would give it a try, at least it’s reversible) and it seemed to work for a couple of months in that I was less anxious – maybe it was b/c I had someone to talk to??? Finally, in October 2009, I ended up doing RAI after agonizing over my decision for a long time. And now, I am just starting replacement & will see how that goes.

    Christa, I totally understand your desire to have your kids close in age – that’s exactly what I wanted (and they are, 2 years & 1 week apart). It can be hard to convince your dr. that at times, but it sounds as though he is supportive. I sympathize with you over your concern about harming an unborn child (through medication that you need to take) as it was a decision I had to make once without really understanding what Graves was or why I needed to take the medicine since the only reason why I got the initial blood test was b/c I was having trouble getting pregnant & since I was pregnant, it didn’t seem as though it would be a problem. Whatever you decide is ultimately YOUR choice – best wishes to you. I hope your switch to PTU goes smoothly (if that’s what you choose) & that you are successful in getting pregnant. Make sure that you are monitored closely – weekly or bi-weekly blood tests – and are put on the lowest dose possible and that it’s tapered off too so that you are not on the PTU any longer than needed (at least, that was the approach my endo took).

    All the best,
    hockey

    Bobbi
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    Even though our bodies often need less and less of the ATDs as we go through pregnancy, it is NOT a good idea to allow oneself to remain hyperthyroid, just to avoid the pitfalls of the drugs, or RAI/surgery, etc. For one thing, miscarriages are more common when someone’s thyroid hormone levels are wonky. For another, thyroid storm can occur suddenly when one is hyperthyroid. TS is a life-threatening condition — and in all likelihood would also threaten the life of the baby in utero. There are other health ramifications of allowing hyper levels to persist. So if you are hyperthyroid, you need treatment both for your health and for the safety of the baby.

    You need to know yourself to determine whether or not you pursue the ATDs while pregnant. Some women stop all alcohol, stop smoking, watch the foods eating like a hawk, etc, etc., all with the health of the baby in mind. For someone like that, taking drugs while pregnant might prey on the mind. And there would be a mighty temptation to stop the meds to protect the child. (BAD idea, if only because it doesn’t, really.) If this paragraph describes you, you probably would feel more comfortable taking replacement hormone (i.e. having RAI or surgery and waiting a few months before becoming pregnant). Replacement hormone IS thyroid hormone. It is chemically identical to thyroid hormone. The only side effect issues to taking it involve taking too much (hyperthyroid) or too little (hypothyroid).

    Bottom line: if your doctor has indicated that the level of ATD you need to protect your health is likely to be safe for the baby, then you have a choice. If "most likely" isn’t good enough for you, then do consider deferring the pregnancy, having surgery or RAI, and going onto replacement hormone.

    Wishing you well,

    mamabear
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    I dont have time to catch up on the posts that were already written so if I say something that someone else has already I am sorry.

    I was on PTU right from the start, I didn’t do methimazole at all. It was PTU right off and a few months later was within proper levels (i have to add that that was very very rare), i was told to continue on meds and try for a baby. I started to try after being stable on meds (about 4-5months later). I fell pregnant and continued on PTU till I think I was about 3months, the pregnancy was taking over and I had to stop the PTU due to high levels and I was stable on my own while pregnant with my thyroid. I had more kids after that (i wasn’t on ptu during pregnancies with them). But the one that I was on PTU on for that short time is a healthy almost 7 year old boy who is smarter than most honor role students!!! No complications during pregnancy and non during delivery and non afterward.

    If i had to go on PTU again I would. I did well on it and didn’t have side effects to badly, non that I would complain about.

    adding this as well…. I was tested every 4 weeks to be sure my levels were stable during pregnancy, might have be every 3 weeks. but you get my point. lol

    It is imperative that you do what is best for your baby in utero and that is to be checked for levels and do what dr. says when it comes to meds. Don’t medicate yourself on your own and don’t go off the meds unless your dr says to.
    I also hope the switch goes well, remember that being hyperthyroid and levels aren’t within the normal range you will not get pregnant or can have a miscarriage if you do become pregnant.
    Your tsh level need to be at a certain level in order for any woman to become pregnant (if levels aren’t in the range then you are wasting your time trying) so do yourself a favor and make sure you are on PTU and are stable and within range before trying if you try before you are switched properly and are stable and you dont get pregnant you’ll only get yourself angry and frustrated and well we all know that isn’t good either.

    I have 4 kids ages are almost 15, almost 7(very soon), <—-those are boys and girls are 5 and 3.
    1st and 2nd almost 8 years apart
    2nd and 3rd are 18months apart
    3rd and 4th are 23 months apart.
    You might feel you are getting older or out of time but listen your health comes first, nothing is perfect but trying to do the right thing and the right switch will give you a better chance of having another baby. Taking is easy and enjoying the one you have now and smiling and looking forward to a bright future will help your body except the PTU and help your mindset for having another one.
    You never know what can happen tomorrow so make do with what you have today. Today you have a dr. that is willing to help you and put on PTU and hopefully he will guide you through this and there will be no problems. BUT if there is a problem remember it can be tackled as long as you know what it is. Piece by piece you can do it!

    wilsonc
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    thank you to everyone who has posted on here. I have gotten some great advice and it sounds like everyone who has been pregnant and on meds has come out just fine. I decided to wait a little longer. I have another appointment with my endo in Feb and I have an GYN app in Jan and thought I would see what my gyn says and see if my levels are closer to normal and then reopen the idea of another baby because ultimately I do want to do what I feel will be safer for the baby and then myself.
    Thank you again to everyone who has shared their stories.

    Christa

    Corinne
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    This was also really helpful for me! Thanks for posting everyone.
    I was wondering Mamabear….did you ever get RAI after having your kids? Or did you continue on PTU until remission?

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